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		<title>Seeing the Light.co</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2015 13:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seeing the Light &#8211; Rob Van Petten Last Monday night I was invited to a very enlightening dinner in New York. It was a meeting of the creative board members...]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #333333;">Seeing the Light &#8211; Rob Van Petten</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #333333;">Last Monday night I was invited to a very enlightening dinner in New York. It was a meeting of the creative board members of Light.co. They have forged the convergence of existing technologies into a revolutionary new camera design.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #333333;">This is so simple and apparent it made me wonder “Why didn’t I think of this?&#8221; Probably for the simple reason that I am not as smart as Rajiv Laroia and Dave Grannan, the founders of Light Co. who have landed upon a brilliant concept. For about 80 years our cameras have been designed around an interchangeable lens system. We buy various lenses depending on their focal length and lens speed because we want different eyes for different situations. We have been bound to our &#8220;camera systems” because we invested in an arsenal of lenses. Then every year or so we update our camera bodies because improved sensors and features become available. Lenses retro-fit to the new DSLR bodies, so we lug all this gear around.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #333333;">But what if all those lens choices, with even better optics, were available inside one camera and were accessed by image software? This is a totally new direction in camera technology. The Light.co L16 has 16 lenses &#8211; essentially refined cell phone lenses &#8211; in an array configuration using 10 lens at a time, at focal lengths equivalent to 35, 70, and 150mm, that simultaneously shoot a single composite still image. The photographer can simply reset the focal point, focal length, and depth of field in post, using slider software down to F/1.2 in camera… or adjust the dynamic range… and render a 52mp file without cropping or loosing any digital resolution… with great low light capability… or then shoot a 4k video too… and then slide the camera back into your pocket… while grinning that the camera costs less than a single good DSLR lens?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #333333;">The camera is sleek and streamlined although high tech as hell. The L16 has a wifi download. It shoots 400 images on a single charge and has an optional battery grip that offers a capacity of 800 shots.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #333333;">The camera face shows the 16 lenses hidden behind a black glass face like the next generation smart phone. An internal software algorithm connects those dots in an altogether new and efficient way for the creative photographer using a 5 inch touch screen control panel. It’s an elegant device, easy to operate and an immensely fluid creative tool. It literally does give you the better quality and control of a DSLR with the convenience of a smart phone.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #333333;">We all have become accustomed to the smart phone style of shooting as our phones have provided improved image quality and convenience. Light offers super high quality image resolution for large printing and the pursuit of serious photography with the easy access shooting of a mobile device.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #333333;">So that’s what we were there to see. We played with the camera at dinner shooting some still life images during a quick demo. We watched a presentation about the company and the development of the camera. The fiber optic flow of electrons around the table could be felt among the group. This concept is brilliantly simple and it’s time was inevitable. This is the start of something important. Also the food was so fantastic, we should have shot the meal. Thanks.   See the Light <a style="color: #333333;" title="light.co" href="https://light.co/camera">https://light.co/camera</a></span></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2015 16:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Curious Curating</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A curious thing happened while curating a photo show lately.  (Maybe that’s where the word came from.)  Gallery owner and photographer, Peter Miller, asked me to be the juror of...]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>A curious thing happened while curating a photo show lately.  (Maybe that’s where the word came from.)  Gallery owner and photographer, Peter Miller, asked me to be the juror of a show he was having at his Povidence, RI gallery a couple of months ago.  It was an open call posted on Cafe Call for Entries, to be judged and displayed in the gallery.   We received 418 submissions on relatively short notice.  I was very surprised at the high quality of images from mostly a fine art contingent of photographers nationally.  It was impressive.   (Here&#8217;s a link to Peter&#8217;s Gallery</div>
<div><a title="Peter Miller Fine Art" href="http://www.petermillerfineart.com"> http://www.petermillerfineart.com</a>.)</div>
<div>The assignment was to pick the 70 images that would end up on the walls of the gallery for the show.  The harder task was to pick from that group of 70 to find the first, second, and third place images.  Peter Miller was also selecting a back up list for the sake of comparison.  There were so many good images it was a difficult process.  I went throughout the entire group 8 times.</div>
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<div>We worked separately on line and without any comparison of our selections.  Of the 70 first choices for the show 65 were the same.  How co-incidental.  From there we decided to narrow it down to 10 contenders for the first second and third awards.  Our ten best were identical.  From there we chose the winner, the 2nd and 3rd place.  They also matched exactly.</div>
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<div>This was a very surprising phenomenon to me.  But from what I hear, it’s not so unusual.  Good stuff is read as good stuff by most interested viewers.  I’ve worked with Peter and known him for about 20 years.  But we don’t really talk about preferences of photographers, styles or qualities of fine art photograph.  I have to suppose that if you spend a lifetime looking at images and studying visual arts, we must have arrived at some of the same conclusions.</div>
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<div>When we review images as we shoot in the studio, it seems everyone blurts out a “Wow” at the same shots.  It’s a peculiar phenomenon that as diverse as we all can be, we all seem to react emotionally to the same visual signals in a photograph.</div>
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<div>Here are the 1, 2 3 images,</div>
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<div>1) Pierre Hauser &#8211; Delivery Truck Door #2.  Pierre’s submissions were consistently beautiful, visually thoughtful and deserves recognition for quality thorough out.</p>
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<div>This is first a well seen abstract ballet of pastel delights in subtle hues.  The components are well balanced while my eye dances around would-be birds and faces and finally follows a string of dots to a dark counterpoint of shadows providing a rich base of details in the shadow areas.  Though I went through the total of 418 submissions at least 8 times, this image stuck in my mind each trip.  The economy of components, the play of colors in space, and the choice of elements ultimately contrasts the dimension of airy elements playing above this murky rooted foundation.  Beyond the composition this image evokes a metaphysical scenario that suggests a balance of contrasting emotional moods.   Maybe decay and renewal.  And all in a single moment discovered on the back door of a delivery truck.  This photograph represents the power and the purpose of a photographic vision.  It&#8217;s well seen photographic magic.</div>
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<div><span style="color: #ffffff; font-family: Lato, sans-serif;"><strong>Cindy Wilson, &#8220;Easy Dime Toss” 2015</strong></span></div>
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<div>2)  Cindy Wilson &#8211; &#8220;Easy Dime Toss”  Is a whimsical wide-angle play of shadows and shapes that appear 3D and pop off the print. The bright round temptations pull us right into the fun of this fantasy land.  Broad blue sky and clouds from a low point of view are the perfect simple backdrop for this powerfully amusing composition.</div>
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<div>Submitting consistently  good entries  deserves recognition.  There were several photographers whose work shows quality thorough out a series of images.  Consistency proves a level of competence and control beyond having a few lucky shots.  Cindy Wilson’s got the shots.</div>
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<div><a href="https://www.robvanpetten.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/2015-07-19-at-10.16.00-PM.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-2105" title="2015-07-19 at 10.16.00 PM" src="https://www.robvanpetten.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/2015-07-19-at-10.16.00-PM-370x500.jpg" alt="" width="370" height="500" srcset="https://www.robvanpetten.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/2015-07-19-at-10.16.00-PM-370x500.jpg 370w, https://www.robvanpetten.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/2015-07-19-at-10.16.00-PM.jpg 500w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 370px) 100vw, 370px" /></a></div>
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<div>3) Joseph O’Leary &#8211; “Ryan”  from the series “Of Beards and Men”  A  photo illustration portrait in a very current style.  The concept is witty and ironic &#8211; and is supported by an impeccable studio lighting technique and a de-saturated post production quality that gives the shot immediate strength and impact.  The composition remains simple and straight forward while the directing of the subject totally supports the amusing mood of the moment.</div>
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<div>This is a gallery show &#8211; so good print quality counts.</div>
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<div>Here&#8217;s a link to the whole show.<a title="New Perspectives Show" href="http://www.petermillerfineart.com/current_exhibit/past-exhibits/open-call-photography-show/"> http://www.petermillerfineart.com/current_exhibit/past-exhibits/open-call-photography-show/</a></div>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2015 21:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TOPIC # 1 This is the first topic I’ll be moderating at the completely unofficial Rob Van Petten Photog Blog.  This allows for more diversity, a wider range of equipment...]]></description>
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<div>This is the first topic I’ll be moderating at the completely unofficial Rob Van Petten Photog Blog.  This allows for more diversity, a wider range of equipment to include, interviews, and a broader range of topics.  It’s often said, If you want to really learn a subject you should teach it.  I have lots of things I want to learn here.  I also think my best results have come from having more of an instinct and less of a plan.</div>
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<div>The voice here might be a little more personal and reflect more on the condition of being a freelance pro in the modern age.  The voice might even become a little louder…   I will address the things that come to mind.  And I hope include some of the issues that are on your mind.  If you have a suggestion for me I’m always interested.</div>
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<div> The thought process that photographers engage when approaching this obsession to carry a camera and shoot pictures of everything always fascinates me. We all do it as differently as our own pictures.  I’ll continue to write out those points as they occur to me.</div>
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<div>Business topics will be added to the discussion.  I am on a campaign to take the free out of freelance. I thought it would be fun to talk about the strategies and back stories of things that come up in the office.  I want to take you through some of my jobs as a behind the scenes visitor.</div>
<div><a href="https://www.robvanpetten.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/RVP-9.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2093" title="RVP-9" src="https://www.robvanpetten.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/RVP-9.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="300" /></a></div>
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<div>I’m interested in the new cameras that are breakthrough technologies.  I want to look beyond the tried and true DSLRs and talk about some new rangefinder cameras, and EVF (electronic viewfinder) cameras and unconventional designs that may be the seeds of developing future changes in sensors, optics and the way people are using cameras.  The influence of cell phone cameras on mainstream shooting from snap shots to commercial professional shooting is a subject.</div>
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<div>I started a topic about balancing what you shoot as a familiar style that guarantees your regular good shots, with the need to break out, discover and experiment in places that are not so safe.  That includes, testing new techniques, using different gear,  and expanding your repertoire of compositions.</div>
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<div>I want to start with a quick story about curating a photo show at the Peter Miller gallery recently.  Of course I always welcome your reply.</div>
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<div>It’s been a great privilege speaking to so many of you from around the world and getting to know you like friends.  I have truly enjoyed reading your comments and trying to foster a discussion that was both enlightening and amusing.  Anyone who is passionate about photography is always an automatic friend to me in any case.  If you would like to continue, please join me at my own weblog where I will continue the topics and discussions.  I’d like to extend a personal invitation to all 81,667 of you to continue the discussions on my own website.</div>
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<div>I’ll be posting topics about process and pictures, do critiques, discuss new versions of cameras, lens and software.  I’ll also be interviewing other photographers who bring something special to cover.  We plan to have behind the scenes videos of shoots and promote the advancement of better photography in any way we can.  Your suggestions are always welcome.</div>
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<div>Thanks to all my friends at Nikon who have made this a real pleasure for the last 6 years.   It’s been a fun opportunity to help people make better pictures, and belong to a community of serious engaged photographers who value learning and sharing.</div>
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<div>Thanks for sharing your pictures and what they mean.  I’ve always believed that the truths held in a photograph bring us closer to a place of greater global understanding and tolerance.  Thank you for being part of it.</div>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rob Van Petten 12:21pm, 10 April 2015 Printing &#8211; I thought we should revisit this idea. So many photographers have gotten away from printing at all. Many digital photographers only process,...]]></description>
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<div>Printing &#8211; I thought we should revisit this idea. So many photographers have gotten away from printing at all. Many digital photographers only process, store and access their images on screen and on their phone. Many commercial photographers show their portfolio on iPads only. This is certainly a sign of our times.To me the measure of my images is how good they will look as a print. After shooting and selecting my good shots, I spend a considerable time in Raw file processing to maximize the overall file potential, then move it into Photoshop to do the selective adjustments that I always want. Usually that means retouching and add other effects or sharpen and soften selectively. When it’s done, the final test of it’s success is how it looks as a print. I make 8.5 x 11 inch glossy proofs because they are not forgiving. Every little mistake will show. After that, I make a 17 x 22 inch print to see how it holds up. If the shot is still a contender I print 24 x 30. Then it’s a portfolio shot.I visited a great new gallery last week in Providence, owned by a photographer, Peter Miller, who makes big composite images ( 27 images from a Nikon D810 merged into one composite). They are stunning whimsical landscape prints with great detail and painstakingly good color quality. This photographer had worked for years as a color printing and scanning expert. His prints showed his expertise. That gets me excited. Peter Miller among other current photographers proves that the fine art print is thriving.</p>
<p>I have had a few shows of my work, and afterwards the framed images kind of stack up against the wall around here, but none &#8211; the &#8211; less, they are the real images to me. I had a show at the (recently closed) Forbes Gallery in NYC about 5 years ago and had a chance to review some of the great images in the Forbes Collection in the back archives of the gallery on 5th Avenue. Many of those were museum quality masterpieces and were stacked up against the wall, laid out on the floor, in the process of organization and review. It was just me and Bonnie Kirschtein, the curator of the gallery. That was an unforgettable experience. To me that was seeing the real shots the way the artists from Ansel Adams to Irving Penn and Andre Kertesz and Henri Cartier-Bresson intended their images to look. I don’t assume to be in a national archive like that but that’s why printing is a standard of completion to me.</p>
<p>Am I wrong? Is there a new standard. Is it flickr and Facebook? Do prints just get stacked up against the wall?</p>
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<p>The hallway outside my office. Rack &#8217;em, Stack &#8217;em.</p>
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<p>This image printed especially well. Look so smart 24 x 30.</p>
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<p>This is one of the few images I printed small to live with at home.</p>
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<p>This was a live demonstration shoot during which I retouched the image and made a final print.</p>
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<div>I print 4&#215;6 at least 3 times each week!.</div>
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<div>generally i print for money (to sell of for a client) otherwise no need the audience is bigger online or published in print.</div>
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<div>Well there is one thing we are forgetting though that there was only two ways to properly view film, as a print or projected (slide projector) whereas with digital you have other options now. I am happy with the multiple ways of showing and exhibiting my images.I do miss seeing my prints come up from the developing tank under OC light and nothing would compare to that experience ever. I actually took pictures of my now derelict darkroom:<a title="Death of a Darkroom: Clothespin by Zeroneg1, on Flickr" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/zeroneg1/6186939180" data-rapid_p="80"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffarm7.staticflickr.com%2F6156%2F6186939180_94eb66f400_m.jpg&amp;t=1437944906&amp;sig=fkoXDPQ98TZ47U_JtogGCg--~C" alt="Death of a Darkroom: Clothespin" width="159" height="240" /></a><a title="Death of a Darkroom: Enlarging Easel by Zeroneg1, on Flickr" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/zeroneg1/6186937164" data-rapid_p="81"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffarm7.staticflickr.com%2F6167%2F6186937164_93d00353bf_m.jpg&amp;t=1437944906&amp;sig=wXZOH2IQ3pERVsvjwOVPgQ--~C" alt="Death of a Darkroom: Enlarging Easel" width="159" height="240" /></a><a title="Death of a Darkroom: Timer by Zeroneg1, on Flickr" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/zeroneg1/6186414467" data-rapid_p="82"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffarm7.staticflickr.com%2F6180%2F6186414467_6e3583746d_m.jpg&amp;t=1437944906&amp;sig=zWB0sqt02CIRv1qrr57EPg--~C" alt="Death of a Darkroom: Timer" width="159" height="240" /></a><a title="Death of a Darkroom: Enlarger Grain Focuser by Zeroneg1, on Flickr" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/zeroneg1/6186415901" data-rapid_p="83"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffarm7.staticflickr.com%2F6164%2F6186415901_2bef22f97c_m.jpg&amp;t=1437944906&amp;sig=PubSInZ9d4bBo2qd_iWrEA--~C" alt="Death of a Darkroom: Enlarger Grain Focuser" width="159" height="240" /></a><a title="Death of a Darkroom: Enlarger by Zeroneg1, on Flickr" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/zeroneg1/6186413863" data-rapid_p="84"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffarm7.staticflickr.com%2F6166%2F6186413863_743ebba21d_m.jpg&amp;t=1437944906&amp;sig=eGomzOOADknoxkVR5w7Wpg--~C" alt="Death of a Darkroom: Enlarger" width="159" height="240" /></a><a title="Death of a Darkroom: Bulk Loader by Zeroneg1, on Flickr" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/zeroneg1/6186416501" data-rapid_p="85"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffarm7.staticflickr.com%2F6168%2F6186416501_06ef49d1d6_m.jpg&amp;t=1437944906&amp;sig=N1oXGKkS85WZq.dfJpKTOQ--~C" alt="Death of a Darkroom: Bulk Loader" width="159" height="240" /></a></p>
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Handing out multiple 4&#215;6 albums to your house party guests to view beats all 20 of them huddling around a monitor while you put up a slideshow. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></div>
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<div>I still have a 12 x 24&#8242; (3.6 x 7.3M) darkroom with two 4&#215;5&#8243; enlargers. I had to cut a provisional sewer line to rend rooms. I&#8217;d like to shoot B&amp;W film and do some printing. I enjoyed printing B&amp;W. I&#8217;ve done color printing but enjoyed it less. The cost was a factor. I printed photos for a high school year book that had to be pasted up at 100%. The first day was always dreadful with very few good prints. By the last day I was nailing print time after time on the first try. Then I did little or no color printing for a year.I&#8217;d like a method of printing a digital image with an enlarge so I could print to traditional silver paper. I&#8217;d use RC for proofs and traditional fiber based glossy dried matte. One would need a very high resolution 4&#215;5&#8243; LCD that would replace a diachronic color head and negative carrier.It would be nice to be so filthy rich that I could have large LCD panels mounted on the wall to display color images on. I&#8217;d like a digital projector. I&#8217;d like the focus shaft and gear part so I could repair my Kodak 850H and 860H slide projectors. The gear was molded over a stainless steel shaft. It would shrink, crack and spin freely so the projectors can no longer focus.</p>
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<p>OK, the original question: I think printing is still valid in the digital age. Looking at photos on a smartphone is a sorry experience. As a replacement for a few photos in one&#8217;s wallet I guess it&#8217;s fine. It&#8217;s no replacement for a box of mounted prints or prints on the wall. The new super high resolution LCD monitors like the Apple Retina seem valid to me. The Samsung I&#8217;m using now is not a replacement for a print. It&#8217;s not high enough resolution for my taste. To put it another way I can see the pixels if I get close or ware glasses.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to get my Nikon F3 out and shoot a few rolls classic Tri-X a month if there is a film with similar characteristics available today. I have three 4&#215;5&#8243; Linhof(s) and more film SLR Nikon(s) than I care to admit. Digital prepress kill my favorite cut film, Super-XX.</p>
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<div>They do sell digital enlargers but at the cost of a foreign luxury car (35K-40K and above). I also would like to print my digital images on graded and RC paper just too bad I was never able to do Ciba/ilfochrome personally but my university did and saw how it was done.I am however glad that we can do the kind of album options that we have today.</div>
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<div>I am very much an amateur so printing to sell or display in a gallery isn&#8217;t something I worry about to much. However there is something I find very rewarding about printing, framing and displaying my photos even if it is just in my home or office or occasionally for a friend at their request. I have printed and framed photos every where from 5X7 to 24X36 and a canvas larger than that. To see one of these displayed in someones home or to receive compliments from people who come in to my office and see my photos is good for the ego and makes me want to keep up the hobby and work to improve.It&#8217;s nice to post my work on Flickr or to have a couple of local news outlets ask to use my work but none of that compares to seeing my work printed, framed and displayed.</div>
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<div>I get my best work printed all the time. Prints will always be compatible with the next O/S and software. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></div>
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Thanks for the information. Too bad about the cost.Dave</div>
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<a href="http://www.de-vere.com/products.htm" rel="nofollow" data-rapid_p="130">www.de-vere.com/products.htm</a>Yup really too bad since it would be very nice to have!You can always try this:</p>
<p><a href="http://petapixel.com/2013/09/03/enfojer-analog-darkroom-printing-digital-smartphone-photos/" rel="nofollow" data-rapid_p="131">petapixel.com/2013/09/03/enfojer-analog-darkroom-printing&#8230;</a></p>
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<div>I&#8217;ve am printing a few of my best images on an Epson R1900 for fun and something to leave my family after I&#8217;m gone. I&#8217;m quite sure no one in my family will know how to retrieve my digital images. Learning more about printing up to 13 x 19 and seeing the final work gives a great feeling. I don&#8217;t have room to frame and hang them but don&#8217;t mind storing them in the Red River paper boxes. Will occasionally get them out for viewing. Also do a few prints for relatives. I find the print much more satisfying than the screen image. Detail stands out more.</div>
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<div>I love digital, its flexibility and speed but it has a short shelf life. I have experienced digital rot in some of my NEF files and have lost them to corrupted files. Prints can last longer, as long as they are printed on good paper, with good ink, and stored correctly.I use digital mainly because living in China is hard to share prints with my family and friends across the globe, providing a link or email album links is much easier. I use different services for different purposes, I really need to get it all organized and done properly one of these days. MS OneDrive, Flickr, 500px, Nikon ImageSpace all hold different types, sizes, and quality of images. As size becomes less of an issue I may start a project of making larger images instead of limiting my online image sizes to 1600px long end to offer better quality viewing.I have used Adorama to print up a couple of books which came out really nice. Most of my film images are just in 3&#215;5 or 4&#215;6 prints, I wanted to get enlargements but it never happened. My largest issue with printing currently is ensuring the ink and paper are high quality enough to last. I would like to print more, but space is limited as my wife likes paintings and most of our walls have paintings on them now, just 2 smaller 29x39mm I had made some years back.</p>
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<div><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/redtailpanther/" data-rapid_p="150"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7340%2Fbuddyicons%2F32299138%40N08.jpg%3F1379458125%2332299138%40N08&amp;t=1437944906&amp;sig=bO2lIU33kujN7jHl5WPeVg--~C" alt="" width="24" height="24" border="0" /></a> <strong>RedTail_Panther</strong>:<br />
I commend your regularity. 3 times a week is steady. Are we talking inches or feet?</div>
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<div><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnedward/" data-rapid_p="159"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7502%2Fbuddyicons%2F35471014%40N00.jpg%3F1420443287%2335471014%40N00&amp;t=1437944906&amp;sig=e1cxxBKlj92oxiLNWT5eJg--~C" alt="" width="24" height="24" border="0" /></a> <strong>John Edward</strong>:<br />
I hear you.  Money is a great motivator.  I sell prints but I must admit I really just like to hold them in my hands and look at them too.  Don’t you like to put prints on your studio wall?</div>
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<div><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/zeroneg1/" data-rapid_p="168"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.staticflickr.com%2F60%2Fbuddyicons%2F49802655%40N00.jpg%3F1318009433%2349802655%40N00&amp;t=1437944906&amp;sig=3A48vVDEDOWS0YTQateSGg--~C" alt="" width="24" height="24" border="0" /></a> <strong>Zeroneg1</strong>:<br />
Good point. There are still slide projectors. All the digitally transmitted opportunities get our images across the world instantly. But what about for yourself? What do you consider the finished form in it’s highest state? I see your darkroom and I know that you were committed to making quality prints. That magic of seeing an image come up in a tray which captivated many of us still grabs me to a degree when I see a beautiful print slowly roll off the 9880. It may not replace that midnight alchemy of the dark, but it still has a gratifying thrill.Some of the iconic elements of your darkroom make me a bit nostalgic. About 3 years ago I met a woman in a store who was talking about her daughter taking B&amp;W photography in school and looking for darkroom gear. I asked if she had a truck. That day I unloaded everything in my darkroom &#8211; enlargers, tanks, trays, timers, jugs, condensers, lenses, even a film dryer, water filters and tongs. Goodbye. All for free just to put that era behind me. Clean fingernails from then on. I’ve never looked back.</div>
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<div><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_speedlight/" data-rapid_p="177"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.staticflickr.com%2F116%2Fbuddyicons%2F87352706%40N00.jpg%3F1224460979%2387352706%40N00&amp;t=1437944906&amp;sig=NOZzutckbemY9cx_vbsDFw--~C" alt="" width="24" height="24" border="0" /></a> <strong>Mr. Speedlight</strong>:<br />
We need to keep buying lottery tickets. Maybe we should organize a NDLC raffle. I’ve been talking about an NDLC road show for 3 years, while we are on the subject of fantasies. Wouldn’t it be fun to get a group together for a NDLC tour bus trip to teach, travel and shoot? If we can only get a few people interested we could go in your Cobra.</div>
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<div><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/zeroneg1/" data-rapid_p="186"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.staticflickr.com%2F60%2Fbuddyicons%2F49802655%40N00.jpg%3F1318009433%2349802655%40N00&amp;t=1437944906&amp;sig=3A48vVDEDOWS0YTQateSGg--~C" alt="" width="24" height="24" border="0" /></a> <strong>Zeroneg1</strong>:<br />
Oh Thanks for reminding me. I wanted to ask about the option of printing photo books from any of the several sources that seem to make fine reproduction books. There are some terrific options at relatively affordable prices. Do you do these? I see many photographers printing their promotional portfolios this way. Some are really gorgeous. Exciting new possibility and the print quality is remarkably good from small files too. I&#8217;ve printed some from small jpegs.</div>
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<div><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/40051766@N05/" data-rapid_p="195"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3731%2Fbuddyicons%2F40051766%40N05.jpg%3F1382391380%2340051766%40N05&amp;t=1437944906&amp;sig=53NuaI6zitcxYIsdxk0twA--~C" alt="" width="24" height="24" border="0" /></a> <strong>Don Boys</strong>:<br />
Power to the print.  I like what you say.  If you take this hobby seriously a good shot is very good for your ego.  For me it’s also a matter of hanging it on the wall so I get used to it.  So I get tired of it and push myself to move forward into something else.  There are always new pages to peel back and if I’m not confronted by my work in a challenging way I get complacent with what I’ve shot.  Facing a favorite shot everyday makes me realize what I want to do next.  Thanks for joining in the conversation.</div>
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<div><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/johhnybravo/" data-rapid_p="204"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8537%2Fbuddyicons%2F44131030%40N02.jpg%3F1369116062%2344131030%40N02&amp;t=1437944906&amp;sig=5pYTGOp43TEGrhUjMLGHrQ--~C" alt="" width="24" height="24" border="0" /></a> <strong>JyBravo</strong>:<br />
What do you mean by short shelf life.  I’m sure we’ve all had corrupted files, and hard drives fail.  Not often &#8211; not as often as fogged film or prints lost to moisture or deterioration.  If you back up your files and continue to move archives forward to current media they should last indefinitely.  What about the cloud?  Do you have faith in off site digital storage where it’s someone else’s responsibility to update the memory and the server?  I do &#8211; maybe.  But I keep most of my images on a series of interchangeable RAID drives.  If one goes, I have another and would conceivably rotate out the bad one replacing the damaged one.<br />
I like the idea of books too.  They’re a bit more permanent and provide a sense of completeness to a body of work.The issue of permanence is an important one.</div>
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If I could use an digital enlarger I would personally go back to making my own prints. I got into the habit of doing Zone System calibration and archival processing for my exposure and development work flow. It was just the inconvenience of film that made me stop doing it and the market have demanded less and less use for it.I actually do premium photo albums but mostly using actual photo print pages (Fuji paper) and not press printed (aka web offset). I personally have not done much of my own personal printing (using inkjet or dye sublimation) since I feel that they are not archival yet but I could be wrong. I know that metallic dyes are now being used as opposed to organic dyes for some printers but I feel that nothing is as stable as silver halide. I am not totally against it because I used to be a Pressman for a Print shop during my college days and see the benefits of a print but the photographer in me wants silver halide for B&amp;W and ilfochrome prints for color images LOL! So yes the highest form of image display for me would be a silver halide print. The Epson 9880 is no longer made though.Digital is not truly archival yet at least it doesn&#8217;t have the proven longevity and stability in storage compared to prints,negatives and slides (Kodachrome) since the actual digital storage medium/format keeps changing. Would we still use DVD/Blu-ray or any kind of optical storage in the future? We do not even use CD&#8217;s these days much less old floppy disks and such. There is that Sandisk SD archival (WORM card) but would the SD/USB port still exist in the future? We don&#8217;t even use Firewire anymore! How often do we backup our RAID server? I thank the cloud computing these days.</p>
<p>However in case of fire, do we actually think about unplugging the RAID storage and running out with it? What if your backup was on optical disks? I would however easily think about the negative/slide binders.</p>
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<div>I see the question more in terms of venue. We enter this world of Flickr and we share in the way of Flickr. In my home one posts a print on the side of refrigerator to share. Making both forms of the same developed image essential in their own, but separate, ways.</div>
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<p>Cloud storage, also known as data center hosting, sounds great and is for many applications, including data storage but&#8230; The largest players in cloud hosting (Amazon and Microsoft) are just getting their systems pushed out from B2B clients to consumers. The technology is still new, things are rapidly involving, this is what I do for my day job and am involved with on an enterprise level, and there are still a lot of question marks. Namely for me is again longevity. Look at where we were 20 years ago in terms of photography and digital photography. I remember talking to Navy Journalist mates in 1995 and looking at the Kodak DC40 files they were shooting, they were horrid, pixelated and small files by today&#8217;s standards but well suited for Navy needs. When taking a step back and seeing what was going on then compared to what we see and have easily accessible, affordable, etc. today where will it all be in another 20 years? Will Amazon and Microsoft be around in 20 years?</p>
<p>I would love to get prints of everything and keep the raw files or high quality TIFFs and JPGs on some medium for my kids to archive and have access to for printing or whatever is used when they are my age, maybe holograms? Physical prints are the best in my opinion but many printers use economics to dictate their printing supplies and I have seen professional photographers prints fade and dull after just 5 years sitting in a frame out of direct light! I utilize RAID mirrors, USB portable drives, and DVDs with copies of CNX2, VNX2, Gimp, etc. as VM for Windows XP or 7 will allow their use for years to come, at least CD and DVD ROM drives have been around for 15 years+. Its not unlike the dilemmas faced by photography pioneers who had metal plate or glass plate negatives and their transition to emulsion films and its various evolutions. The end result prints are probably the best because if all else fails, you can just use the camera and software of the time and capture an image of the print.</p>
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<div>When I first saw this post I was trying to use a new Nikon AW130 on a dive trip. With no aperture or shutter speed control I was well forced out usual shooting pattern. Experience is a two way street. It is the foundation to build on and the four walls of a box limiting ourselves.The Aw130 forced me to new shooting patterns and I found I could adapt. The iPhone/iPad and Lightroom mobile hasn&#8217;t forced a change but has opened a alternate to printing that I might find just as good or better if it were not for the foundation/box that 40 years of shooting has built.BTW, if the AW130 and its 100 foot depth rating tempts you, one word &#8220;don&#8217;t&#8221;.</p>
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I hear your concerns.  Maybe you would enjoy and trust the inkjet printers a bit more it you used them with the same dedication as you did your darkroom.  I’ve made the move.  I have boxes of faded stained halide silver prints here and many that I lost ion 9/11 which were too physically fragile to bother reconstituting on digital media.  Nothing is forever except tomorrow and the opportunities that will lead us to better systems.  I have many images on CDs that still work.  DVDs too.  My RAID is 4T of ones  I may need to access.  That’s manageable.  And I have a back-up at home that’s easy to update in case the studio is under attack again.  My system is a bit sloppy, but that’s the way my mind works.I’m never nostalgic for the wet darkroom.  I like the idea that if my print is ruined, I can run off another one exactly like the first at the touch of a button.  All the hard work is done and stored in the file.  Maybe I’ve even learned a few new tricks.The Epson 9880 is replaced by the 9890 which is the same printer and ink system with an updated color management system that accommodates the X-rite color calibration to match profiles in various RIP formats &#8211; which I have not yet played with.  But that Ultra Chrome system has been the standard for almost ten years, which means for me that the evolution of a good working standard has found a plateau and has become more stable.  The archival duration is supposed to be 200 years or more.  We probably won’t be around to cash in the warrantee if they fade after the first 100, but for right now they look pretty good &#8211; better than I could make with a C print or a Dye transfer  &#8211; and they are repeatable 100% if I need one.  I’m not skeptical.  You have nothing to lose but the chains of chemistry.</p>
<p>I expect a certain amount of disappointment whenever I see a printed (web) version of my shot.  Magazines and books make a lot of compromises to accommodate a number of images on a printed page.  Sometimes I get lucky.  The books I’ve done for myself I’ve had better luck because there is one shot per page &#8211; and the printing of personal photo books has become a popular industry and the process has improved.  I would think that you, more than most, would enjoy printing your own stuff.</p>
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Photo processes have always been in a state of continuous upgrade.  For a long time &#8211;  60 or 70 years or so &#8211; sheet and roll film silver negatives were a nice stable standard.  But even that was evolving slowly.  That made us all feel very comfortable about the permanence of negatives, prints and transparencies.<br />
When the digital image capture was developed, we all saw the pixelated early images with skepticism, but knew that progress never goes in reverse.  The beginning of something new was steamrolling forward.At the infant stage of digital transformation devices and storage and all of it was evolving rapidly.  Manufacturers were competing for the format that would win out as the standard.  File size was a driving the technical changes and updates.  That rapid turnover of technology and gear, described as Moore’s Law &#8211; that everything would become twice as big and half as expensive &#8211; has slowed down.Cameras have leveled off at the 24.5 &#8211; 36 mg standard for high quality files for a few years.  Cameras got good enough.  After the D3x at 24mb there was no use in arguing &#8216; The pixel race has cooled off.  Larger 2 T &#8211; 4 T hard drives have also stabilized as storage standards for a while.  Among pros and regular private consumer users.  I’m surprised some times to visit photographers with 50 &#8211; 100 hard drives stored on the premises that contain every shot they’ve ever taken all coded and cataloged.  I don’t think all else will ever fail.  It hasn’t yet.  It just gets updated and so do the photographers.  I’m not skeptical but excited about what they will think of next.</p>
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It&#8217;s very interesting to read your reactions to shooting with the AW130. I had a very similar experience with the AW110 2 years ago. The auto functions are liberating to a degree and unnerving at the same time. It forces you to use the variable you can control, the moment, the frame, and the subject. It was even more strange to be throwing the camera into the water shooting above and below the water line without a housing. I was continually making the rational override. I was fortunately in the safety of the backyard pool. I did enjoy the slow-motion video and shooting inside the splashes.  <a href="https://www.robvanpetten.com/total-immersion-making-a-big-splash-by-rob-van-petten/" rel="nofollow" data-rapid_p="258">www.robvanpetten.com/total-immersion-making-a-big-splash-&#8230;</a></div>
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<div>I&#8217;ve wanted to ask since I first saw it, the lady biting the bullet: is the bullet silver or lead? I&#8217;m thinking I&#8217;d sleep better if I had a few silver bullets in .357.I like the photo!Dave</p>
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<div><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_speedlight/" data-rapid_p="273"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.staticflickr.com%2F116%2Fbuddyicons%2F87352706%40N00.jpg%3F1224460979%2387352706%40N00&amp;t=1437944906&amp;sig=NOZzutckbemY9cx_vbsDFw--~C" alt="" width="24" height="24" border="0" /></a> <strong>Mr. Speedlight</strong>:<br />
Bite the bullet. I was planning a live demo shoot while visiting a welder friend where I was picking up a length of chain and some metal odds and ends for props. I happen to notice there was a bucket of stainless spent 45 casings as a door stop. I asked for a handful as props. It was a shiny but already shot stainless 45 caliber, so I added the primer and the bullet in photoshop. It can be silver if that completes the fantasy. It&#8217;s a lot safer as a photoshop bullet.</div>
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<div>I think I think in prints. I loved my b&amp;w darkroom &amp; printing. Even experimented w/developing &amp; printing slides. And yes, digital/monitor viewing is handy and can be very beautiful. But I really love the big prints all over my living room. And at work ;))When I had to start using labs, I&#8217;d get my film developed &amp; 4x6s made. Then I could see how they looked, which might enlarge well for prints. I think you&#8217;re naturally more careful about making each shot count with film, not wanting to waste any.Then w/the digital darkroom I&#8217;d get 4x6s w/my film &amp; a CD! oooo that digital darkroom was a learning curve. Now w/my D700, &amp; digital editing, I still love prints.</p>
<p>In fact, the first day I rented a D700 to see how it was, before I could even rtfm, I found an interesting <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/terrymcdermott/3340984132/in/photostream/" data-rapid_p="282">dark bar</a>, and later that day a hot rod/custom <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/terrymcdermott/3341022978" data-rapid_p="283">car show</a> &#8211; and was blown away at the sooc prints. The chrome, the finishes, the range in the dark bar&#8230;.. So my first impression, of what later became my new digital camera, came from the prints. (of course they looked pretty nice on the monitor, too <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f609.png" alt="😉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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<div>It could be that those of us who started off making prints from film still think in terms of prints as the final finished medium.There may be a shift toward screen only images. I just like the tangible sensation of holding in my hands the vision that I previously catch with a camera.</div>
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<div>Agreed but looking at the printer slowly doing it line by line is not the same as seeing it develop on the tray and the revelation once it hits the fixer and hypo clearing solution.</div>
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<div>Yes, there&#8217;s a certain magical feeling as you see a print show up in the tray. And then if you have to redo it, dodge this a bit differently, subtly shift the timing, and wait as the scene magically appears. Even developing negatives was magical. Was the agitation, time/temp, everything just right, will the contrast be perfect, will I have maintained my desired exposure range, and especially will that experimental roll turn out &#8230;.My local Costco has a large epson ink-jet, right by the counter, so silly me, I love watching my print come out, line by line&#8230;.. not nearly as magical as the developer tray, but, still kinda fun to watch ;))</div>
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<p>I was thinking of a monitor that would replace a 4&#215;5&#8243; negative and be projected onto paper with conventional enlarging lenses like a 135/5.6 and 150/5.6 such as the EL-Nikkors I currently own. I&#8217;ve been dreaming about this for a decade anyway.</p>
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<div data-author-name="Mr.  Speedlight" data-author-url="/photos/87352706@N00/"><a title="Mr.  Speedlight" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/87352706@N00/" data-rapid_p="315">Mr. Speedlight</a> Posted 3 months ago. Edited by Mr. Speedlight (member) 3 months ago</div>
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<div><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/rvpimages/" data-rapid_p="317"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm5.staticflickr.com%2F4041%2Fbuddyicons%2F51002891%40N02.jpg%3F1276133926%2351002891%40N02&amp;t=1437944906&amp;sig=zYfVG4qE1XDKSXR49cehXw--~C" alt="" width="24" height="24" border="0" /></a> <strong>Rob Van Petten</strong>:</p>
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<p>For commercial photography I wouldn&#8217;t think many would be.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m one who loved the wet darkroom when printing for myself. When printing for others I liked the money. People designed darkrooms with a dry side and a wet side. I had a dry hand and a wet hand. I didn&#8217;t like the rush when a courier would arrive punctually at 6:45 AM.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t tried an inkjet for a number of years, maybe a decade. I had three Epsons of the same model. I don&#8217;t remember the model. It would print up to 13&#215;19&#8243; in sheets. The first two were replaced under warranty. The last was donated to a high school unopened. I paid for the over the counter replacement for the high school. As far as I know the third one was charmed.</p>
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<div><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_speedlight/" data-rapid_p="324"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.staticflickr.com%2F116%2Fbuddyicons%2F87352706%40N00.jpg%3F1224460979%2387352706%40N00&amp;t=1437944906&amp;sig=NOZzutckbemY9cx_vbsDFw--~C" alt="" width="24" height="24" border="0" /></a> <strong>Mr. Speedlight</strong>:<br />
I was just thinking about the wet side and the dry side. Glad you mentioned that. You may see a huge change in quality, and print longevity over the ink jets of ten years ago. Now the whole darkroom is the dry side and on the light side.</div>
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Yes but the monitor needs to have the proper resolution since it would not look sharp if it only has a 1080P res so you will need it to be a 4K monitor and need to be bright enough to pull it off.</div>
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<div>Yes it would need to be an extremely high resoluiton monitor.Dave</div>
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<div>I&#8217;m stuck with a 500CM and 80/2.8 Planar as I had an idea to print large inkjet print form scans or old photographs. I would have restored the photos as needed and tailored the pints for copying so they could be printed on silver paper with little or no local adjustments and wirhout the need for special copy film.Dave</div>
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<div>In 1990 I had three Nikon LS1000 scanners. My plan was have a pro lab develope color negative film and I would scan and prepare the photos for web printing for my PR customers. It never happened. The LS1000 wasn&#8217;t able to produce publication quality in my opinion. I return all three. There were film transport problems, jagged scans and no digital ICE.Dave</div>
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I still have an LS-1000 and never had problems. It was just harder to use the software after several OS iterations. Of course it would have been nice with ICE. I did only use mine for scanning slide since I use the B&amp;W film in the darkroom. How I wish I have a Cibachrome processor.</div>
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<h2>Fashion Lighting</h2>
<p>By The EditorsPublished in <a href="http://www.digitalphotopro.com/technique/camera-technique">Advanced Camera Techniqu</a>e</p>
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<p>During one week in February and one week in September, you can feel the earth tremble. No, it&#8217;s not an earthquake. This movement is caused by camera shutters and strobes catching the fads and flops of Fashion Week. Along with the live action on the runways and the paparazzi in the streets, high-end conceptual fashion photographers take this time to show off their freshest images and to contract new work. Compared with the industry&#8217;s designers and models, photographers may have a more silent public voice, but it&#8217;s their mastery of light technique that creates iconic fashion imagery that clearly shows each brand&#8217;s advertising identity and each magazine&#8217;s layout story. We caught up with Alessandro Dal Buoni, Jake Hicks, Lara Jade, Rossella Vanon and Rob Van Petten, who share their techniques to make your fashion shoots stand out.</p>
<h4>Rob Van Petten</h4>
<p><a href="https://www.robvanpetten.com/" target="_blank">www.robvanpetten.com</a><br />
Rob Van Petten shoots fashion advertising images with a futuristic flair. In Japan, at age 10, he borrowed his father&#8217;s Nikon and never gave it back. He has been creating award-winning photographs for clients including Nikon, Gillette, Reebok, Ray-Ban and Procter &amp; Gamble. Rob has written a regular column for Nikon World Magazine, and moderates the Nikon Digital Learning Center Flickr site and My Nikon World on Facebook. He was the Photography Program Director at Boston University Center for Digital Imaging Arts, and is the host of Big Shot Workshops and an avid photo educator. Known for his distinctive lighting, he has a very close relationship with Dynalite flash equipment and Rosco Labs.</p>
<p><strong>What do you like most about fashion photography?</strong><br />
Originally, I wanted to lead the romantic vagabond life of a photojournalist. Then, I discovered the romantic life of a fashion photographer where no one was shooting back at me. But, really, it&#8217;s the wonderful world of acting out fantasies and pursuing beauty—rather than documenting reality.</p>
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<td><strong>1</strong> Nikon D800 and D810<br />
<strong>2</strong> AF-S Micro-Nikkor 105mm ƒ/2.8G ED VR<br />
<strong>3</strong> Dynalite RoadMax 400s and 800s<br />
<strong>4</strong> A beauty dish and three heads, with grid spots, colored gels, diffusers and barndoors<br />
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<p><strong>What&#8217;s your top fashion photography tip?</strong><br />
It&#8217;s a collaborative effort. Lots of colossal egos collide. Learn to skillfully guide the creative energy of everyone on the crew. That makes a happy, productive shoot and the strongest images. Also, the job is to create an illusion. First, you set the stage, then you light the set. Finally, you give the model some scenario to act out. It&#8217;s finding that believable moment that makes the shot work. If it&#8217;s too much about the clothes or the lighting, it will look stiff. Keeping the models in motion makes it more believable.</p>
<p><strong>What&#8217;s your favorite fashion lighting setup? </strong><br />
My lighting is always evolving to keep it fresh. It&#8217;s somewhat challenging to pull off and makes the job intriguing for me, as well. I don&#8217;t want to do the same thing over and over. The difference between doing it well and doing it great is in the subtle nuances. Keep refining. I use Dynalite flash gear. I use smaller-powered lights in local positions to light up the specific parts of the shot I want to address. I rarely use softboxes or big overall lights.</p>
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<div>Portraits are a window of insight into a personality. They should tell us something we don’t already know, or at best show us the person in a different or unexpected way. A portrait sitting gives us an opportunity to direct and guide a subject into revealing a gesture or expression that tells us something unique about that person.</p>
<p>Let’s shoot a portrait and post it here. Find someone you find photographically intriguing. Find something visually shot-worthy and make that quality or characteristic the point of the picture. This could be good practice for approaching people you want to shoot. Many have said they don’t feel comfortable approaching strangers for permission to photograph them. Find someone who you have wanted to shoot and overcome that apprehension.</p>
<p>Put the image in photographic terms. Use the composition and the light quality to accentuate what it is you are revealing about them. Use light and shadow, motion, economy of detail, selective focus&#8230;</p>
<p>I recently had the good fortune to meet a young model who was visiting my house with another photographer. I immediately thought she was a very strong model and asked if we could pop into the studio and just try something for fun. She poked through some of the clothes in the dressing room and came out wearing a shirt that revealed a tattoo of a knife on her chest. That little element told a lot about her, besides her cosmetic delicateness, arty gestures and expressions of her personal style.</p>
<p>Let’s shoot some new portraits. I’m planning to shoot some beauty tests with this model very soon and will post here. This is my opportunity too.</p>
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<div>ok I cheated, I shot this one yesterday</p>
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<p>Check out my 365 portrait album on flickr. I&#8217;ll be the first to admit, some photos need work, but it is a cool project to try and complete!</p></div>
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<div>This was my friend Dave. It pretty much explains in the blurb with the photo.</p>
<p>It was behind the scenes in Snowwhite rehearsals. Even as long time friends<br />
this was an awkward shot as there was a lot of emotion going on. Dave was struggling with his lines and i was brought in at very short notice as one of the cast had dropped out at last min.<br />
This was one of 3 shots but the other two i haven&#8217;t used as you can see the utter dispare in his face. I asked if i could use this photo for its rawness. We do amateur dramatics with no payment except the joy of the audiences faces but it is draining.</p>
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<div>I think the colour version adds a different layer</p>
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<p>And then they turn the spot lights on.</p>
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<div>Who really knows someone?</p>
<p>Does anyone really know themselves?</p>
<p>Can you really expose hidden elements of a subject&#8217;s personality, or are you merely presenting an image that your audience may colour with their own pre-conceptions and cultural assumptions?</p>
<p>Keeping that in mind, here&#8217;s a portrait of a total stranger of whom I know nothing other than she seemed to be doing some shopping on a Sunday.</p>
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<p>Bravo!</p></div>
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<div>Son and Grandson. Hopefully the pride I&#8217;m taking in watching my sons comes thru. Truly a very neat joy and , frankly, one that caught me by surprise. Never understood this part of parenting.</p>
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<div><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/48469543@N02/" data-rapid_p="214"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.staticflickr.com%2F5243%2Fbuddyicons%2F48469543%40N02.jpg%3F1291367200%2348469543%40N02&amp;t=1427486769&amp;sig=JTIc96LJSYduRrAM8XgWCA--~B" alt="" width="24" height="24" border="0" /></a> <strong>moemay9</strong>:<br />
Yes &#8211; you cheated, but you were quick to respond.</p>
<p>Adorable child.  The colors of the turquoise figures against the warmth of her skin are a great accent and activity.  I’m wondering if the shot would be stronger if the focus was on the eyes instead of the figures if we would connect with her a little faster and for longer.  I think so.  Kids can be great performers in a portrait shoot &#8211; usually for short duration &#8211; and often are uninhibited and camera savvy.  The right kid and the right toy can open a wonderland of fantasy photos.</p></div>
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<div><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/ianolivephotography/" data-rapid_p="225"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.staticflickr.com%2F5253%2Fbuddyicons%2F118945751%40N02.jpg%3F1398695712%23118945751%40N02&amp;t=1427486769&amp;sig=OeEk_hKGhQuian9zTAiH1g--~B" alt="" width="24" height="24" border="0" /></a> <strong>ianolive40</strong>:<br />
It is a cool project. I took a quick stroll down 365 Lane and see a continuity and style emerging here. You appear to make this fun for the subjects which fosters a relaxed trusting confidence in your subjects. You have several with the subject in the center of a wide angle landscape for context. Those hit me initially as graphical strong and by repetition strengthen the whole group. If you are continuing with this project I hope to see some other strong compositions emerge.</div>
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These images of Dave are first amusing because he is getting such an exaggerated  make-up treatment and ironically does not appear to be enjoying it.  That’s funny.  I agree with the black and white strength.  He pops more.  And then the performance shot puts the before and after context to the story.</p>
<p>The make-up shot is more of a portrait because he is working with you and is cognizant of you shooting.  Documents of a performance are not really portraits because it’s not a collaborative effort with the camera.  Its a document of a performance and you are not the director.  A portrait is when the artist is in control to direct the subject, design and effect the lighting, and guide the process of the shoot to a point where something significant is captured that says something insightful about that person.</p></div>
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If you choose to engage someone and study them you will learn a great deal more than before you tried.</p>
<p>If you analyze your own behaviors you can apply what you learn to your understanding of everyone else.</p>
<p>If you study photography you will learn the distinction between a street grab shot and a portrait session where you have a dialogue with a subject.  More importantly the subject is a willing collaborator in a process of making a revealing statement in visual terms.</p></div>
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Something is revealed about the subject and something is revealed to the photographer about their relationship.  A good part of shooting your own family.  Joy is a rare and precious thing.</div>
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<p>Thanks for your reply Rob</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t sure what type of photo the stage shot was. i added it as an indication that the portrait wasn&#8217;t the norm with regards to the first shot.</p>
<p>Thinking about your other comments on other shots.<br />
I suppose although shot in a portrait, it technically isn&#8217;t a portrait. Although Dave new<br />
i had a camera. I don&#8217;t think he was expecting the photo. If so his expression may have been different and something i would have had control of.</p></div>
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<div><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/rvpimages/" data-rapid_p="280"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffarm5.staticflickr.com%2F4041%2Fbuddyicons%2F51002891%40N02.jpg%3F1276133926%2351002891%40N02&amp;t=1427486769&amp;sig=25rxPkLrRHtIhU0aSp7QpA--~B" alt="" width="24" height="24" border="0" /></a> <strong>Rob</strong>:<br />
Take for example what most would consider a good portrait: Avedon&#8217;s portrait of the Duke and Dutchess of Windsor.</p>
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<p>The story goes that he sensed a certain sadness about them, but when they sat, they were too formal. So, knowing that they were animal lovers, he told them that his dog had died (or something similar). He then caught their reaction.</p>
<p>Now, does the image (particularly without the story behind it) tell us anything about the couple? Has Avedon done anything else than to foist HIS interpretation of his subjects upon us?</p>
<p>I will agree that a good portrait will tell us a lot about the photographer, and it can probably give the questioning viewer some insights into themselves, but I don&#8217;t think it can say much about the subject.</p></div>
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.thanks Rob for the comment, I would have to agree with you about the point of focus part that you have suggested would make a stronger photo. When I saw the scene&#8230; she was happy with what she have made with the play dough. The story in my head was &#8220;the artist behind the creations&#8221; &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..:) That was the reason I choose to focus on the toy. I actually thought about take another one with focus on her eyes but she moved..</div>
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<div>Though these pictures were taken earlier, here is a picture of my daughter when she got Brown Bar Belt in Taekwondo (she is black belt 2nd Dan now)</p>
<p><a title="Taekwondo Kid :) by Rajnish Jaiswal, on Flickr" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/rajnishjaiswal/6092037187" data-rapid_p="302"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffarm7.staticflickr.com%2F6068%2F6092037187_f75998749e.jpg&amp;t=1427486769&amp;sig=FlZpeWIbG.fSeExw5a0J8g--~B" alt="Taekwondo Kid :)" width="309" height="500" /></a></p>
<p>And a casual picture of my Mom, which I felt has brought out her personality.</p>
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<p>Though now I see a scope of improvement for both.</p></div>
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You’ve chosen one particular famous portrait where Avedon chose to show them in an unflattering moment.  Maybe he had more insight into them than we do.  Avedon was trying to evoke some emotion from a stiff and otherwise blank practiced response from the Duke and Duchess of Windsor.</p>
<p>The story told by Diane Arbus, is that Avedon had a preconceived agenda when he photographed the Duke and Duchess in 1957.  He told them that on the way to the session his taxi had run over a dog, a lie, to elicit a response.   There had been suspicion about their ungracious familiarity with Adolf Hitler and the Nazis, leading up to WWII.  They lived in an elegant Paris home provided by the French Government on a lavish income provided by the British Government and made pro-fascist remarks to the press and disparaging remarks about their host countries.  Avedon once remarked that the Windsors loved dogs more than they loved Jews.   There is much written about their opulent life style and peculiar indulgences.  So it is probable that Avedon had an agenda in this famous case and they were pretty accurately cast.<br />
(The Duke and Duchess of Windsor: We Are Not Amused, October 9,2009 by Lisa Waller Rogers)</p>
<p>The shot was a big news event and widely controversial at the time.  But not really a great example of what we are talking about here.</p>
<p>That is an unusual condition.  The overwhelming majority of portraits are made with the open cooperation of the subject with the intention of finding some flattering likeness or something insightful to reveal about the subject.  A mutual collaboration.</p></div>
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<div><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/rajnishjaiswal/" data-rapid_p="325"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3784%2Fbuddyicons%2F43827410%40N03.jpg%3F1384257055%2343827410%40N03&amp;t=1427486769&amp;sig=xGlMJ.3FxS3FjsAjhiibcA--~B" alt="" width="24" height="24" border="0" /></a> <strong>rajnishjaiswal</strong>:<br />
These two images are very different in style. The silhouette of your daughter is a very graphic treatment that shows her karate ability in an unusual way. I think most people think of a portrait has having more information than less, but in this case it becomes an iconic graphic that effectively says something strong.<br />
The shot of your mother is a very sympathetic expression shot in a more conventional “chiaroscuro” style with this dark background. (Chiaro = light, Scuro = shadow in Italian) The lighting supports the warm composed mood of her expression really well too.</div>
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<div>I love this type of stuff. It&#8217;s right in my wheelhouse.</p>
<p>This is a Supervisor/Longshoreman in the Port of Sacramento.<br />
He&#8217;s Creole, which I have never knowingly photographed someone that was.</p>
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<div>In that photo i`ve tried to capture the essence of my bride.<br />
She`s a funny girl that allways give a smile for a friendly person.</p>
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Some things that work here &#8211; the light quality is creating very zappy electric filled light quality that tells us you are making a stylistic statement.  Looks like a ring flash.  The guy is a very strong subject in his bright orange vest and his connection with the camera.  This up agaist the wall environment works really well too.  This is a  powerful portrait.</p>
<p>This encouraged me to look a bit at  your phtostream where I say a couple of others that I liked too because of the light quality that did magic things.</p>
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<p>To my eye, this one is a lot stronger because of the super dynamic light blasting through here. All these radial lines and the framing of the guy in the blast zone of this doorway make this a powerful winner.<br />
It is empowering the guy as well as illuminating the shot. This is strategically well seen and well executed.  (Personally I love this one.)</p></div>
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<div><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/alexandredinelli/" data-rapid_p="370"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7069%2Fbuddyicons%2F34508276%40N03.jpg%3F1396066824%2334508276%40N03&amp;t=1427486769&amp;sig=P71ISTCSIou8nPg8qBk00Q--~B" alt="" width="24" height="24" border="0" /></a> <strong>alexandredinelli</strong>:<br />
This has all the qualities of a shot I refer to as quiet confidence. She likes the fact that you like what she is doing. There is a completed circuit of energy flowing here from you and the camera to her and then back to reinforce your point of view. This is the effective dialogue that happens when a subject and photographer get in sync. This is why there is a special dialogue between a photographer and a model when a shot works.</p>
<p>I think everything content wise works here pretty well to support the emotional moment. I might want to see the rail a bit softer ( less depth of field) because it competes with the focus on her, and could be a bit more stylistically romantic as softer shapes than the iron rail that it is. However, it’s providing a sense of place and a degree of environment that works with her lovely smile.</p>
<p>I took the liberty of trying a softer out of focus rail version. Maybe the rail could go even softer. What do you think?</p>
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<div>I may be cheating because I shot this photo last month, but I was going through the thought process discussed above of finding a stranger with a shot-worthy characteristic and photographing him in a way that shows it.<br />
I met this man on a street in India and learned from others around that he was a repeat winner of moustache growing contests. His moustache was tied up, so I asked him to pose in front of his shop where there were two photos of him with it spread out.<br />
On his initiative, he unfurled it and showed it off with a pride that I thought also revealed his showmanship.<br />
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<div>Richard &#8211; It may be cheating a little, but we can give you time-traveling-extra-credit for the thought process and for getting such a great shot. I think most people bent the rules here a little too. This ‘stache is just about at the limit of his arms length. For the next contest he may have to hire a couple of assistants. It’s a very captivating shot because the guy is so pleased to strike his pose. The placement of the sign and the color shot in the lower right gives us some context about his history of mustache growing, and makes the shot last longer.</p>
<p>This is a really nice shot. It&#8217;s a photographically appropriate subject and all your instincts about the wide angle and the close cropping support the concept very well. The only little item I find a bit distracting is the position of the hose behind him on the left. The hose is close in color and scale to his muostache and competes graphically just a little. Maybe a slight camera move to the left might have separated his head from the hose. Small point but, when you have it this good and a guy willing to pose, it’s worth shooting around the space to reduce distractions and investigate other angles.</p>
<p>You seem to be getting a lot of good use out of your D750, especially in India. This is only one of many very nice portraits you did there showing the amazing rich colors and textures of Indian culture. You have a great street journalistic style. Your use of color and light direction is consistently very appealing. You use a range of focal lengths very effectively too. It’s great to see how you engage your subjects in such a comfortable way. You explore a lot of the world through your camera. Good instincts. Practiced skills. Work on a book. Thanks for joining the discussion. Show us more.</p></div>
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I really think that you improve the quality of the picture. I agree with your position about the rail and even the model prefer that new look. I´m thankfull about the tips and the attention gave to my work.</div>
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<p>Thanks very much for your comments. The hose bothered me too. There probably is a better angle, but when I was there I couldn&#8217;t find it.</p>
<p>Yes, this trip was the best chance I&#8217;ve had to put the D750 through its paces, and I was very happy with it. When I first bought it, I was skeptical about the tilting screen, but I used it a lot &#8212; for candid shots, for low angles when I didn&#8217;t want to kneel or lie down in filth, for high over-their-heads shots in crowds, etc. The low-light performance and dynamic range were also excellent.</p>
<p>A book may be coming.</p></div>
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<div>Prior to engaging a stranger for a portrait, the issue of whether they would be willing to sign a model release form comes in to play. If gut feelings say that they will, then the creative process ensues. If not, then no matter how compelling, the search continues for another subject. What are the thoughts concerning this issue?</div>
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